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Propaganda's Claudia Brucken

Author: Jonty Skrufff
Wednesday, January 19, 2005
"When Dr Mabuse was in the German charts in the early 80s, I was still finishing school, then as soon as I finished, Propaganda started a world tour and we had this enormous immediate success. But our record contract was really awful, we had bad management, telling me "get rid of them' and them to "get rid of her'. And in a way, before too long, everything fell apart."

Like their 80s peers Frankie Goes To Hollywood, German electronic quartet Propaganda produced some of the best electronic pop of the era, though unlike Frankie, they ended the decade largely, though not entirely forgotten. 20 years on, however, as the 80s inspires so much of today's interesting new music, Propaganda tracks including Dr Mabuse, Duel and Machine are rightly recognised as classics of the era, electronic pop standards on a par with the best of Human League, Depeche Mode or indeed Frankie at their best.

Sitting in a Finchley Road cafe on a dark winter's day, the band's best-known singer Claudia Brucken looks nothing like her post-punk past, and instead blends in seamlessly with the plush North London surroundings she now calls home. She's chatting to Skrufff today about Propaganda's role in a recent concert and album celebrating British uber-producer Trevor Horn's work, as well as her acoustic album Another Language, and ongoing electronic project One Two, which she runs with one time OMD producer Paul Humphreys. She's also currently recording with Andy Bell, she reveals, after the Erasure star tracked her down recently via her website.

"Andy, Phillip Larson and Chris Smith were working on Andy's solo album and they approached me via the internet, they emailed me saying "we'd really, really love to work with you, can we come and meet you' so we met up and connected," says Claudia.

"I think Andy is a total darling, I really think he's lovely and so are Philip and Chris; it's such a joy to work with people who don't have any chips on their shoulder."

Skrufff (Jonty Skrufff): An article on your website talks about you being "horribly exploited" by your label ZTT back in the 80s, during the Propaganda days, how did you feel about contributing a track to the Trevor Horn album-

Claudia Brucken: "It's great in a way to be a part of it and for us it was an opportunity to participate in the live show produced by Trevor. It was great to work with fantastic musicians and a fantastic sound system for the first time. As a singer I couldn't have wished for anything better, particularly because Propaganda hadn't been on stage together since 1986. For us it was a brilliant moment after all these years. It was also a pleasure to meet Prince Charles and Camilla, the entire evening was a theatre of the absurd. This ZTT album is a by-product of that event."

Skrufff: Does Propaganda exist as a band now-

Claudia Brucken: "It always changes, the face of Propaganda constantly changes, I now believe it's Suzanne and Michael again, who recently released something but it can always change. If the right song came along I think all four of us would still love to do something but it has to be the right song."

Skrufff: Dr Mabuse's the track that's been included on the album, how do you view the songs 20 years on-

Claudia Brucken: "They're a part of me, Dr Mabuse in particular, because it has so much to do German history, Dr Faust. I think Trevor really captured that essence, the Fritz Lang film, Mephisto and Dr Faust. That's a really important part of my German-ness, I'm really fond of that track and I really like the theatricality of it. For Trevor it was a very dark moment in his production career, we suited each other perfectly for this particular song."

Skrufff: With Propaganda at one point you were being hailed as the next Frankie Goes to Hollywood then with all the legal problems you seemed to disappear, how easy was it to cope with that change-

Claudia Brucken: "It was all a bit mad, I was really young then. Wh